hooping

Either way, hula-hooping and watching said-hula-hooping is hard to claim, on its face, as being gender-discrimination.

But the point is that hula-hooping, or shirtless weight-lifting, shouldn't be prohibited just because some people gawk and others are made uncomfortable.

> If hula hooping women make you uncomfortable It wasn't women hula hooping made someone feel uncomfortable.

Is the part that bothered me, they are implying that the inappropriate part is the women hoola hooping.

The second thing, about hula-hooping, without context, it doesn't really mean anything beyond what Horvath claims she was able to grok just by stumbling upon the scene.

Where things jumped the shark is where men watching women voluntarily hoola hooping at a company event triggered an industry-wide freak out about sexism through the magic of blogs and twitter.

Horvath felt male co-workers gawking/staring/looking at female co-workers hula-hooping while sitting in a couch looked like someone visiting a strip club.

> But the point is that hula-hooping, or shirtless weight-lifting, shouldn't be prohibited just because some people gawk and others are made uncomfortable.

All it said was they were hula-hooping to some music and the response from the bench-full of male employees was embarrassing.

If those women felt safe enough to be hula-hooping in front of these heterosexual men, then why was Horvath feeling so unsafe?

I think during the original HN discussion, a Githubber said that the hula-hooping happened during an in-office party.

If you want to sexualise hula-hooping or weight-lifting, fine, just don't use that point of view as the basis of a complaint.

It was men "gawking" at the women hula hooping, that made Julie Horvath feel uncomfortable.

Replace "hula-hooping at a party" with "showcasing their assets" and even you should be able to figure it out.

> is this "hula-hooping at a party" the best evolutionary strategy to obtain that goal?

As far as we can tell, the women doing the hula-hooping were doing it for fun/exercise with no sexual intent, and the men watching just thought it was entertaining and not sexual." Exactly.