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Do those people feel like the typical high-clearance honcho that Ellsberg described, or like Ellsberg himself with the wisdom of years?

Both Russo and Ellsberg testified about their reasons for leaking the Pentagon Papers and their experiences in Vietnam.

Daniel Ellsberg only ended up serving 2 years because his case was dismissed for prosecutorial misconduct.

Reading that statement by Ellsberg is actually one of the things that crystalized the thinking I described above.

Please see the reference to Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers and the associated Supreme Court case where document leaking was protected by whistleblowing.

The defendant can offer no defense to justify it, as Ellsberg found out.

This characterization of the Ellsberg case misses its entire context.

I haven't had the super high clearances that Ellsberg talks about, but I do understand the feeling because of the work I do.

At the time Ellsberg was condemed by many (especially in the military industrial complex) as a traitor but now I think that just about everyone believes that Ellsberg did a good thing for our country and society.

>but now I think that just about everyone believes that Ellsberg did a good thing for our country and society.

I think somewhere else on HN today there was mention of the famous discussion between Kissinger and Ellsberg about how the world seems different when you have access to information that most people don't.

The Espionage Act of 1917 has a history of being applied quite liberally and is not without contest, notably in the case of Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers, who did very much leak information on misconduct pertaining to foreign as opposed to domestic policy, but was acquitted because of parallel construction and other criminal acts done in response to his leaks.

From Elsbergs Wikipedia page: "Ellsberg was silenced before he could begin.

I am paranoid about winding up like the "wisdom of years" version of Ellsberg though.

The Supreme Court case you refer to was called "New York Times vs US Government" and was a major victory against prior restraint of the press, but it didn't protect Ellsberg.

Daniel Ellsberg [Pentagon Papers whistle-blower]: "Somebody told me that they can listen to what we're saying by my having this cellphone {waves what looks like iPhone} even though it's turned off." William Binney [ex-NSA]: "Yes.

Or that Russia wouldn't essentially rig a sentence up for someone like Daniel Ellsberg, given Russia's extraordinarily corrupt justice system.

Ellsberg could not escape the Espionage Act charge but it was dropped by minstrel.

Historical analogies, such as the huge civil rights win in Ellsberg's Times vs.