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However, they can't be compared with graduates from the top grandes écoles, simply because none of these grandes écoles focus as much as Epitech on training developers.

Actually, if you are very good the very best Grandes Écoles (ENS, Polytechnique) pay their students to study there.

All the top Grandes Écoles are public and depend on different ministries (Education, Industry or Defense).

Programming is considered a dirty job in France by most people from grandes ecoles.

The top grandes écoles have the best math/physics students coming in.

As a result, graduates from grandes écoles can work pretty much everywhere and most of them don't actually work in tech (usually finance, management consulting, etc...).

The only way that wouldn't happen is if the grandes écoles brainwashed their students into stupidity, while Epitech and 42 had a time-distorted super saiyan training chamber.

> Also I don't understand why you say that the students graduating from grandes écoles are technically incompetent.

There are lots of 'grandes ecoles' offering programming, but mixed with Electronics and/or Mechanical Engineering.

After high school, if you have good enough grades (say top 10%) you can enter something called Classes Préparatoires, which is a rather intense scientific (Math + Physics) preparation for competitive exams for the Grandes Écoles.

I think learning CS Theory without a good practical background is actually wasted a bit and that more Grandes Ecoles should try to get students to have more practical experiences which would help them connect the theory to actual situations they've had.

I believe that this is a false statement regarding the domains of physics, mathematics, or general engineering, but i think the level of engineers out of grandes ecoles in comp-sci and programming is really far from stellar, being easily surpassed by students out of universities.

The idea is that computer science isn't properly taught in French old fashioned universities and "grandes ecoles".

It goes from highly selective schools "grandes écoles", to universities or undergraduate programs that anyone with a high-school diploma can attend.

We even have a few "Grandes Ecoles" based events, which tend to do poorly.

And all "grandes écoles" students speak at least decent English (I know for teaching in one).