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What if I promised you gainful employment and gave you as much time as you wanted to prepare ? Yeah most people think "I know C its just like C++/Java".

They will stop as soon as it's socially no longer a gainful action for them. Not bothering may be part of it but it's certainly not sufficient.

I can't imagine them having the education for any kind of gainful employment when they get out.

Wouldn't you be more likely to relapse if you were a felon unable to find gainful employment? Or a mother whose son just got shot for pushing crack on the corner?

> I can't imagine them having the education for any kind of gainful employment when they get out. Has this ever been the goal of the justice system in the United States?

The "gainful employment" rule seems to target low quality schools. If, as you assert, non-profits are of higher quality, why exempt them from the "gainful employment" rule?

What we'd hoped to accomplish, and fell short on in the end, was a way for developers with non-traditional backgrounds find gainful employment. In Silicon Valley, where I suspect you are, this really isn't that big of a deal.

Code for "wow, that's a scary looking bill rate" perhaps, but certainly not the sort of talk that tends to lead to gainful employment. So I suggested that we do a quick R&D project at a reduced rate just to see if the thing they wanted to build was in fact buildable.

When the automobile was invented, they were unable to find gainful employment and their wages fell below subsistence levels. This hasn't happened to humans yet because technology has not replaced all possible jobs humans can do.

My guess is that if you're drinking 6 cups of coffee a day, you've probably got yourself a nice white collar job - and a lot of the other life lengthening perks that come along with gainful employment.

Ind=W04 Also, purely coincidentally, non-profits are exempt from the "gainful employment" rule and all the other new rules being levied against competitors to the non-profit education sector. Weird.

Economic advantages aside, gainful, satisfying employment is also great for morale of the nation. Making things is generally fertile ground for job satisfaction.

We deny the reality that most people are looking to acquire practical skills for gainful employment. This leads to a situation where we shun practical vocational training, and instead give everyone a diluted version of a pure academic education.

The NPV of a job upgrade, particularly from unemployed or student to "first gainful employment in a meanginful role", is staggering. Heck, I'd do this just to close consulting sales if I thought it would meaningfully affect outcomes -- it's a LOT less work than often goes into getting five figure engagements on the calendar.

Hopefully, Zynga will soon be a footnote in history, Pincus will retire with whatever he stashed away from the IPO, and his employees will find gainful employment doing something less shady and banal.

The graph of gainful-employment vs. technological-efficiency is not linear.

The "gainful employment" rule seems to target low quality schools. Incorrect. Your false assertion here completely derails the remainder of your post, making it irrelevant. If you would like a correct explanation of the gainful employment rule, let me know.

, coupled with an insidious lowering of standards in our education system starting in the lower rungs of K-12, we'll have a mass of college-educated individuals who can't find gainful employment.

I'm glad that through homeschooling and other alternative approaches I used to educate my children that now my oldest son, already grown into adulthood, gained sufficient work skills that he has gainful full-time employment even in today's bleak job market. His generation should be spared from the policy mistakes of my parents' generation.

I'm watching my parents, aunts and uncles struggling to even get interviews after months of unemployment following decades of gainful employment at companies that downsized during the recession. These are mostly white collar workers that never had trouble finding a job with a few days or weeks of searching all their lives; suddenly they don't even hear back after applying to dozens of companies.

While I'm not entirely disagreeing with your point, there is an element of dubious optionality wrt student debt when one systemically cannot find gainful employment without a college degree. College degrees are increasingly becoming the new high school diplomaswherein they are, for all intents and purposes, of equal compulsory nature, without the defense of laws requiring all 18-21-year-olds to be there.

So they created an acute increase in the crime rate, which then permanently decreases the ability of members of the community to secure gainful employment, thereby also creating a chronic increase in the crime rate, expanding social burdens on the community, and reducing the community's economic productivity overall. This in a city that's already completely falling apart both socially and economically thanks to >50% of its African-American males having prior convictions.